Thursday, October 19, 2017

Joe Girardi Calls No Challenge

Zachary Halperin and Michael Thompson
Sports Literature
10/19/17
Sports Article

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Questions:
  1. Why didn’t Joe Girardi call a challenge?

  1. Did you believe Girardi when he said he didn't want to ruin the rhythm of his pitcher to call a challenge?

  1. Do you think his blunder helped bring the team closer together and win the series?

  1. Do you think this would of effected Girardi’s career if the Yankees lost the series?

22 comments:

  1. 1. Girardi didn't challenge the call because he said his replay personnel did not have enough time to see the correct video replay angle. He also said he didn't want to ruin the pitcher's rhythm. He got a lot of backlash for the non-challenge and said that it was 100% his responsibility.

    2. I don't believe that was the real reason for why Girardi didn't choose to challenge. His decision to not challenge the call turned out to hurt the Yankees worse than if he had challenged it. The Yankees gave up a grand slam and if Girardi had challenged the initial call the Yankees would have got out of the inning. Girardi made a mistake and is using the "pitcher rhythm" as an excuse.

    3. I do think his mistake brought the team together. The Game 2 loss forced a big Game 3 and a needed win for the Yankees. It is obvious that the Yankees love their manager and wanted to get a win for him. The combination of the needed win and determination to win helped bring the team closer and fight harder throughout the series.

    4. No, this wouldn't have affected girardi's career. One mistake by a coach does not define his legacy/career. Girardi has done well with the Yankees and it seems that their organization really appreciates them. Brian Cashman was very forgiving of girardi's actions and told him to keep fighting. I think the "keep fighting" mentality was evident throughout the team which made them hard to beat.

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  2. 1. Girardi didn't call a challenge because his replay personnel didn't have the time to see the correct replay angle, and he didn't want to ruin his pitcher's rhythm.

    2. I don't think that's the reason- he probably just didn't want to risk the consequences if he challenged it and got it wrong. Even though the Yankees ended up giving up a home run, they didn't know at the time that that would happen, and Girardi had do go with what he knew.

    3. I do think Girardi's mistake brought the team together. Losing the game forced them to win the next three, or be eliminated. None of the players wanted to be remembered this season for Girardi's mistake, and they knew nothing was over yet, so they came together and fought to save their season.

    4. I'm sure this moment would've tainted Girardi's career if the Yankees lost the series. Without this event, there was a high chance the Yankees could've evened the series, but since they went down 0-2, and if they lost another game, their season, and Girardi, would be remembered for this moment. Even though the players were very forgiving, the media posted tons and tons of stories about this event, and Girardi would be remembered for losing the series for the Yankees.

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  3. 1. Why didn’t Joe Girardi call a challenge?

    Joe Girardi did not challenge the call because he said that his replay personnel didn’t have enough time to determine whether the right call was made by the ump. Girardi said that they did not see the angle that clearly showed the ball hitting the bat. Also, Girardi claimed that he did not want to interrupt the pitcher’s rhythm.

    2. Did you believe Girardi when he said he didn't want to ruin the rhythm of his pitcher to call a challenge?

    I believe Girardi was telling the truth, I just don’t think it is that great of an excuse. The pitcher had two men on already and was not in a particularly good rhythm. Although in retrospect it is easy to blame Girardi, and I am not sure how many other managers would have called a challenge.

    3. Do you think his blunder helped bring the team closer together and win the series?
    
I definitely think that this helped bring the team closer together. They all rallied behind their manager and it gave them an extra push. Even Todd Frazier said that this win was for Joe, so clearly they all used this as an excuse to work and fight harder.

    4. Do you think this would of effected Girardi’s career if the Yankees lost the series?
    
If the yankees had not won this series I definitely think it would have effected Girardi’s career. People would have laid the blame on him, and if the yankees hadn’t responded so well he might not have a job. Furthermore, at this point the DH’s on the yankees had been hitless and Joe hadn’t done anything to get more production out of them. I think it would definitely have effected his career.

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  4. 1. Girardi didn't challenge the call because of his replay personnel. They did not catch the right video angle. A pitcher needs to go with his rhythm and Giradi did not want to break that, he felt that he would make it worse. He took responsibility for the miscall.
    2. I believe he told the truth, but if he thought that then he is a terrible coach because he was not in any rhythm. He had two men on and something like that could have sparked something up for him. Many people may think it is all his fault, and I agree.
    3. I do think his blunder brought the team together. The huge wins like Game 3, showed the team really cared and wanted to win this thing. It is clear that the Yankees are fond of their managers and wanted to get a win for him. The determination of the team showed that they really wanted this win.
    4. I am sure it wouldn't effect his employment because he is so loved, however his statistics as team member would have been effected. Obviously a playoff series loss looks good to no one, especially with the talent of that roster. His job would still be secure, but he would have to be careful the next season.
    -Max Mahr

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  5. Why didn’t Joe Girardi call a challenge?
    Apparently his review personnel did not watch the video in time so they did not have an accurate read on the play. Also, he did not want to mess with the rhythm of his pitcher at the time. A pitcher's rhythm is essential in baseball and the manager felt he would disrupt the pitcher if he challenged the call.
    Did you believe Girardi when he said he didn't want to ruin the rhythm of his pitcher to call a challenge?
    I believe he told the truth, but I also believe the major reason was being his review personal who were not able to review the play. If he had the right information pertaining to the situation he could of made a decision but he did not have all the facts at the time, so he played it safe and did not challenge the call. Also, there is blame to be put on the referees as they did not give the proper call when they first made a ruling.
    Do you think his blunder helped bring the team closer together and win the series?
    I do think it made the team closer and lead them to win the series. It seemed that the started to play with intensity after the fact, since they were playing on the behalf of their manager. The three straight wins to cap the series is evidence of them coming together as an organization.
    Do you think this would of effected Girardi’s career if the Yankees lost the series?
    I think it would of been a serious blemish on his career as it would of cost them a chance to possibly compete for a national championship. Not calling for a review looks bad on his part since his decision lead to a grand slam, and the Indians cutting the lead to one. As the manage of the Yankees their is constant pressure to preform and win as an organization.

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  6. 1. Joe Giradi knew it wouldn't be worth making challenge because it would take time which would throw the pitchers rhythm off and maybe cause them to loose more points. Also, Joe did not have any solid information from his replay personal and did not want to waste a challenge.

    2. I believe the Joe was telling the truth but deep down he might of regretted not making the challenge. Joe is a very talented coach and has a lot of the experience with baseball and I believe the pitcher would of been able to easily regain his rhythm.

    3. Yes I think this made the team work harder and harder to be able to win the next game. They knew the only way to beat them in the series was to come out of the next few games with a win. They were down 2 games so it made them want the win even more.

    4. I do not believe that it would of had a long term impact on Giradis career. I believe if they lost the series fans would of looked at his mistake in a negative way but it would quickly blow over. The yankees have worked well with Joe and I am confident that fans would forgive him and support him moving on.

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  7. 1. Girardi did not challenge the call because of two reasons. The first was because his replay personnel did not have enough time to see the correct replay video angle. He also did not want to ruin his pitcher's rhythm. Because of this, Girardi did not call a challenge.
    2. I don't think he was telling the truth. His pitcher wasn't in a rythm, so it is a bad excuse. I think Girardi didn't want to face the consequences of him getting the challenge wrong and since he did not see the full replay from a good angle, he did not want to risk anything.
    3. I think his blunder was a mistake, and I think he learned from it. I don't necessarily think it brought the team closer together, but I think it helped the coach really focus on winning the following games. The coach knew he made a mistake and he fixed it, and I think in the future it will help the team win and help Girardi be a better coach.
    4. I think it would have effected his career. Although I do not think it would be a huge deal. Girardi is a loved coach, which is why people would understand he just made a mistake and that he learned from it. But with people's attitudes towards the play and how extreme it was, the incident will effect his job and a career oppurtunities. People would have laid the blame on Girardi for the Yankees lose and it would've hurt his reputation.

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  8. Why didn’t Joe Girardi call a challenge?
    He didn't want to mess up his pitcher's rhythm.
    Did you believe Girardi when he said he didn't want to ruin the rhythm of his pitcher to call a challenge?
    Yes, he wants his team to win and bad publicity will not help him keep his job.
    Do you think his blunder helped bring the team closer together and win the series?
    I think his blunder did bring the team close, because knowing that they would have to work extra hard considering their loss and still making it shows that even when the odds are against them when they work hard together they can find success.
    Do you think this would of effected Girardi’s career if the Yankees lost the series?
    Yes, fans would've blamed him and it would have hurt his reputation. It would have affected his career even if it shouldn't have.

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  9. Girardi did not challenge the call because his replay personnel did not have the evidence in time to overturn the call. If Girardi had gone out and lost the challenge, Green would have been completely out of rhythm and it could've spelled doom for the Yankees.

    I do believe Girardi because you can't ruin your pitcher's rhythm in that kind of situation. The most important thing is to make the pitcher feel as comfortable as possible in any given situation, and ruining any pitcher's rhythm is a mistake that Girardi could not make.

    I do not really think that this brought the team closer together. The thing about sports is when you go down, your whole team needs to believe you can come back and win. You need to have confidence in yourself and your teammates so that you have the best chance to win. If Girardi missing the challenge call is what makes them believe in themselves so be it, but in professional sports it is hard for me to believe that.

    I do not think it would have impacted Girardi's career because he is one of the best managers in baseball and Brian Cashman is far too smart to fire Girardi over a bad decision. The Yankees went from an old team to a young team in only one year and they never went under .500, so any manager that has the ability to do that will not get fired over a bad decision.

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  10. 1. Joe Girardi knew he should not call the challenge because it would influence the pitchers rhythm. His replay personnel did not catch the right video angle therefore, he did not want to waste a challenge since you only receive one challenge per game.
    2. Joe Girardi is a very experienced coach so I believe he was telling the truth. Although, I think it was a poor excuse because for any professional baseball player, it would be easy to regain rhythm.
    3. Yes, I think this brought the team together. The athletes now realize they have to work together and win in order to keep going in the series.
    4. I think there would be some heat from fans based on his mistake although, it wouldn't last long. In my opinion, it was a small mistake and in order to have a long term affect on his career, he would've had to make a larger mistake.

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  11. Why didn’t Joe Girardi call a challenge?
    Girardi did not think he had enough time to review the play, and he also did not want to ruin the rhythm of his pitcher.

    Did you believe Girardi when he said he didn't want to ruin the rhythm of his pitcher to call a challenge?
    Yes I do believe him when he said this because getting into a rhythm as a pitcher is very important in baseball and making the pitcher stop could shift his focus. He most likely himself did not believe the odds of challenging would be in his favor.

    Do you think his blunder helped bring the team closer together and win the series?
    Yes I think this blunder showed the strength and perseverance of the yankees. Since they were held back because of the loss in that particular game, they had to work together more as a team to come back and win.

    Do you think this would of effected Girardi’s career if the Yankees lost the series?
    I think many people would blame Girardi if the yankees did not end up winning the series and it may have affected his career in the short run. However I don't think it would have affected his career in the long because it is just one play. He made a simple mistake many other managers have made before and does not deserve for his career to take hit for something so small and accidental.

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  12. Why didn’t Joe Girardi call a challenge?
    Girardi did not challenge the call for several reasons. One of them was he feared he would interrupt the pitcher's rhythm if he stopped the game and made the umpires go and officially review it. Another reason was that Girardi felt his reply crew did not have enough time to review the play, therefore were not confident in reviewing the call.
    Did you believe Girardi when he said he didn't want to ruin the rhythm of his pitcher to call a challenge?
    I do believe Girardi, not just in baseball but in sports in general a player's rhythm can cause a noticeable difference in their playing ability. A rhythm can give a player confidence and the ability to take over the game. Disrupting this rhythm can make it very hard for a player, especially a pitcher to come back and perform at a high level. I fully believe Girardi had the right intention and his reasoning is fair due to the magnitude of the game.

    Do you think his blunder helped bring the team closer together and win the series?
    I do think it brought the team closer. Great teams are resilient and can come back from being down in a series. The Yankees were able to rally behind their manager and work together as a unit to comeback from being down in the series. A great comparison is the 2016 Cleveland Cavaliers who were down 3-1 in the NBA Finals against the Golden State Warriors. The team was able to come back and win the series. The Yankees were also able to come back from this deficit and win the series.
    Do you think this would of effected Girardi’s career if the Yankees lost the series?
    Considering Girardi's contract is up at the end of the season I would assume this would likely cost Girardi his job. He has been the manager for the Yankees since 2009 when he won the World Series, however ever since he's had limited success never getting back to the World Series. I believe if it wasn't for the Yankees comeback during this series Girardi would definitely not be given a new contract.

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  13. 1. Joe Girardi didn't call the challenge because he said that his replay team couldn't get the right angle fast enough for him to call a challenge. He also said that he didn't want to through off the pitchers rhythm. This is because he liked the way he was playing and didn't want that to get messed up.

    2. I think that played a role in Girardi's decision but it wasn't the reason he chose not to challenge. I think he didn't want to mess up the call if his replay team couldn't get a good enough angle for him to know for sure. However rhythm probably played a part because especially being a pitcher getting in the groove is everything.

    3. This definitely brought the team closer together. Not so much because of the no challenge but because losing a close game can rally a team to come back and play better. Which is what happened after this game, the Yankees were able to win game 5 and advance to the next round.

    4. I don't think this would have affected Girardi's long term legacy. In the moment fans would be upset, but all coaches make mistakes, and no one wins every game. His long term record speaks for itself. He's a world series champion and an experienced manager. If the Yankees lost he may not have gotten his job back but his legacy wouldn't be ruined

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  14. 1. Why didn’t Joe Girardi call a challenge?

    Girardi did not call a challenge because he said his reply personnel did not have enough time to see the correct video replay angle in that loss and that he didn't want to ruin his pitcher's rhythm. After the game he took full responsibility for not calling a challenge and stated he felt horribly about it.

    2. Did you believe Girardi when he said he didn't want to ruin the rhythm of his pitcher to call a challenge?

    I did not believe Girardi when he said he didn't want to ruin the rhythm of his pitcher to call a challenge. I think it was an excuse to make up for his mistake and that he didn’t want to hear anymore criticism about it and move on. His pitcher was also not in rhythm especially when the bases were loaded. If he did challenge it there would have been no home run and the Yankees would have most likely won that game.

    3. Do you think his blunder helped bring the team closer together and win the series?

    I do believe this blunder helped bring the team closer together and win the series. The team knew it was all or nothing after that game and knew they still had a chance to win the series. When you make that big of a mistake, the only positive you can get from it is to learn and be motivated and that’s exactly what the Yankees did. A quote from the article says, After Game 2, Joe came up to me in this same spot [outside the manager's office] and said, 'Hey, man. I'm sorry,' '' Cashman said. "I told him, 'We just have to keep battling. Nothing is over yet.' No one on the plane home thought it was over at all.'' This quote shows that the team stayed together and did not let the mistake get to him and that paid off as they won the series.

    4. Do you think this would of effected Girardi’s career if the Yankees lost the series?

    I do think this would of effected Girardi's career if the Yankees lost the series. He was facing so much criticism from the media and a lot of Yankees fans. If they won that game the series could have been evened up and taken a lot of pressure off the players. Though the players were very forgiving of his mistake, he would have been facing a lot of heat for a long time, and a mistake like that could have an affect on you for the rest of his life. If they lost this series, Giardi’s call would always be remembered in Yankees history and it could have potentially cost him his job in my opinion.

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  15. Girardi didn't challenge the call because apparently his replay team couldn't review the play in enough time. It would have also thrown his pitchers tempo off and it is pretty risky to challenge because if you are wrong then you lose your coaches challenge.
    Yes of course I believe Girardi when he says that. I play baseball and I know how important a pitchers tempo is. The last thing that you want to do is throw off your pitcher. Especially when you don't know if you will be right when you are challenging the call.
    I think that it might have brought the team together. After the loss the Yankees realized that they need to step up their game if they want to win this series. That is just what they did. It was impressive to see a young team bounce back the way they did. And I do not believe that they would have been able to bounce back the way they did if they weren't united.
    100% this would have affected his career. If the Yankees were swept in the playoffs then I definitely believe that Girardi would have been fired. And if Girardi would have been fired then it would affect his career. I'm not sure that this specific play would have been the reasoning for his dismissal but I do believe that if the Yankees were swept, then they would have an opening at the managers spot.

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  16. Why didn’t Joe Girardi call a challenge?
    He didn't call a challenge because replay personnel did not have enough time to see the correct video replay angle and that he didn't want to ruin his pitcher's rhythm. They lost the game, probably because of it, and took the blame for it.

    Did you believe Girardi when he said he didn't want to ruin the rhythm of his pitcher to call a challenge?
    While it seems like a legitimate excuse, I don't think it cuts it when it ended up losing you a game to put you down in a series 2-0 in the playoffs. If it were to ruin your pitcher's rhythm, I think it's worth it to overturn a call that could've potentially cost you the game.

    Do you think his blunder helped bring the team closer together and win the series?
    I think so. The team had to fight that much harder together and come together as a team in order to win the series. He says nobody on the plane home thought it was over anyway. Teams have to overcome adversity and mistakes all the time and the Yankees were able to win despite the costly mistake by Girardi.

    Do you think this would of effected Girardi’s career if the Yankees lost the series?
    Yes. His contract expires after the season and a mistake that could jeopardize their season so close to a world series title could definitely effect Girardi's career. As a major league baseball coach, you have to challenge that play and reverse the call rather than load the bases and give up a grand slam that puts your pitchers in a worse state of mind that before. That's a critical mistake by Girardi

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  17. 1. Girardi said that his replay team did not have enough time to show him the correct angle of video. He did not want to risk losing a challenge and throwing off his pitcher's momentum.

    2. I do believe him. Losing the call would've been similar to icing a kicker in an NFL game. If the pitcher is playing well, you want to do anything you can to keep them playing well.

    3. I think it did rally the team together. The Yankees realized that they needed to perform better as a team, and it gave them a reason to bounce back in the series.

    4. It definitely would've affected his career. Girardi's contract expires after this season, so it would effect his possibility of a contract extension. It would also lower the probability of him being picked up by another team.

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  18. Why didn't Joe challenge the play
    He stated that "l did not have enough time to see the correct video replay angle in that loss and that he didn't want to ruin his pitcher's rhythm." After the game he realized that that was the wrong approach to the situation, he took full responsibility for not calling a challenge and stated he felt horribly about it.

    Did you believe Girardi when he said he didn't want to ruin the rhythm of his pitcher to call a challenge?
    I don't really belive him, not necessarily because he felt didn't feel the need to, I felt like he needed an excuse for him taking too long to make the decision to challenge.

    Do you think his blunder helped bring the team closer together and win the series?
    I think his whole World Series run brought them closer, because they are a new, young and successful team. They defined all of the odds during the playoffs and they all made close connections with each other.


    Do you think this would of effected Girardi’s career if the Yankees lost the series?
    I do because it was a call that many thought would be a smart call and he didn't . I don't necessarily think that it will make a huge negative impact that will take away from his legacy, but its definitely make an impact.

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  19. 1.
    Giradi didn't challenge the call because his personnel and staff didn't have time so his team couldn't review the play. Also if would have ruined his pitchers momentum and if he would of gotten the call wrong he would of lost his coaches challenge.

    2.
    I think Giradi is lying when he says he didn't want to ruin the momentum of his pitcher. I think he was just trying to come up with a excuse for making a mistake not challenging the play. Also if he is a professional athlete I don't think he needs to worry about his momentum he can get it back easily.

    3.
    I do think Giradi mistake brought the team together because they didn't want to be remember as the team that lost from there managers mistake. It forced them to player harder and get a couple wins to grab the lead in the series and win it.

    4.
    I don't think his career would of been effected but I don't think he would be blamed from the loss and would need to do a lot to clear his name. He has been a good manger and it would of been a big loss to the yankees organization.

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  20. Girardi didn't challenge the call because he says he didn't want to brake the rhythm of his pitcher and he didn't see enough replay of the play. I believe him when he says he didn't want to ruin the rhythm of his pitcher because I don't deny that he did but I don't think thats a smart reason to not challenge that. Im sure the team used this to put a chip on their shoulder, i don't know if that helped them win or have a long term effect his career.

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  21. Girardi did not challenge the play because there was not enough time for the staff to review the play. He also did not want to lose the challenge or ruin the rhythm of the pitcher.

    I believe that he did not want to ruin the rhythm of the pitcher, but I do not think his decision was correct. In the time it would take to see the results of the challenge, the pitcher would not have lost his rhythm and they would have won the challenge.

    I think this brought the team closer together. It was a close game and the Yankees had to rally if they wanted to come back and win the series. When a team looses a close game or is losing, the only way to win is to come closer together.

    I do believe that this coaching mistake will affect his career. He has been a good manager for the Yankees team much this almost costed them the series.

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